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JWilfong

Fantastic article and very inspiring. Please message me any other experiments of mass-crowdsourcing going on out there. I wish to learn more.

Transpartisan

Speaking as a former federal employee, here are my thoughts/questions about the SAVE Initiative:

If 38,000 suggestions were submitted by federal employees, but only four (4) were selected for voting by the public, then what happens to all the rest?

That is, if the SAVE Initiative is being "taken seriously", then what happens now to the remaining 37,996 ideas?

Granted, OMB may use "some" of them later on, but if federal employees see that over 99% of their submitted ideas go into a black hole, then what message does that send?

And, just for the sake of discussion, let's say that "only" 1,000 ideas (out of 38,000) had real potential for substantial savings.

So, then, what is the purpose of figuring out which one is the "BEST idea" when ALL of those "top-1,000" ideas can save money?

Does there have to be a "winner" (a la American Idol) as if this were some type of competition? No, there does not unless, of course, this is trying to be marketed to the public in an simplistic, entertaining way.

Many federal employees will recognize that aspect of the SAVE Initiative, and when they are asked for more ideas, in the future, the number will be much, much LESS than 38,000.

ALSO: I'm wondering whether the online system allowed federal employees the option of remaining anonymous. It can be very dangerous to one's career to point out inefficiencies in one's office. Many bosses tend to look at that as open criticism of their management.

Transpartisan

Dear Anil,

I always wince when I hear people talk about how a blog is a great way to have a "conversation".

And it could be that you may respond to 99% of the comments left on your blog-postings.

But, all I can gather from the lack of a response to my comment posted almost a years ago, is that, like most bloggers, what YOU want to say is more important than the response from others.

I sincerely hope that this is not the case here, but that is up to you to clear up.

vr,
Stephen Buckley

Anil Dash

Hi Stephen,

Actually I'm very interested in two-way conversations -- but sometimes the tools make it inefficient to carry those on, as in this case your response slipped through the cracks. Apologies for that.

To answer your questions as best I can (keep in mind, Expert Labs isn't part of the government so we're just fellow citizens when it comes to insights into how these programs work):

* It is a shame that unused ideas go into a black hole. Ideally, all submissions would be visible, and even more optimally, the criteria used for filtering them would be public. The tools we make at Expert Labs, like ThinkUp, are designed with those goals in mind, but I'd expect that the SAVE program's efforts were so early that some of these ideals we'd like to see were omitted in order to get the project launched at all.
* Picking a few ideas out of many to operate on is exactly the sort of prioritization we *want* our federal agencies to be doing. The issue for any agency isn't "are there lots of worthy projects to tackle?", because the answer to that is always an emphatic yes. Rather, we want to make visible the decision-making process by which these agencies rank and sort those priorities. In this way, there will be accountability, because frankly there's never going to be enough resources to say yes to 1000 great ideas all at once.
* Finally, I think your concerns about privacy/career impacts of sharing ideas points out the complexities in your initial request that all submissions be made public. Focusing exclusively on ideas that can be publicly shared will necessarily skew some of the feedback, and will have a censorious impact on the kinds of ideas suggested. Perhaps a complementary campaign to SAVE could be done with the explicit expectation of all submissions being non-anonymous and public, to see if that elicits different types of suggestions.

Again, my apologies for the lack of response -- sometimes the intention of conversation is overcome by the constraints of time and technology. And, though I share many of your criticisms of SAVE, I think this situation is parallel in some ways; Sometimes we have to be happy with good-faith, but imperfect efforts, instead of demanding the perfect ideal solution in a situation, because making progress towards the ideal is the most important first step.

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